Rules & Guidlines

This forum is designed to be a space for discussion of all things Z related. Within this scope largely lies the possibility that technical information may appear on the board or elsewhere on the site. If you are going to take the advice of anyone or any information from this website, you should take note that these are personal opinions expressed merely by other Z owners and that anything they tell you may be potentially wrong and may result in you wasting your money, time, or damaging your car.

No one on this site or those responsible for its operation is to be held liable for any information that appears on it. The responsibility to decide whether you are to take another's advice is entirely yours. It is up to you to use this information however you please, but should you act on this information its source is not to be held responsible.

Any opinions expressed on this forum are those of the individual poster and do not necessarily represent those of the forum administration.

Posting Guidelines & Etiquette

You are welcome to post other forums on this site knowing there is much information on twinturbo.net and other Z sites. This is to help our fellow Z enthusiasts grow and learn.

Much of the following is just common sense and regular polite etiquette, please use your head and don't get into flame wars or the like.

- Please keep all material PG rated or better (no naked women, obscene images or language) as some people read the forum at work and everyone has different views on what is and what is not appropriate. This includes signatures. Posts which contain non PG content MUST have this indicated obviously in the post title, and should only appear in the Not Work Safe(NWS) forum. Anything R or XXX rated will not be tolerated outside the said forum area, and in the very least will be deleted. Members may be disciplined via the Infraction system, see below.

- No insults to individuals or groups (e.g. police, workshops, etc), keep criticism constructive rather than abusive.

- Please do not degenerate into flame wars or arguments that are not constructive. If an argument ensues simply ignore it, replying only continues it further.

- Please do not use the forum (a public place) for arguments or issues which are better left private.

- The Z Related (Technical) section is for all Gen Z's. Just find your Generation and post there.
Threads in Z Related (Technical) should only be started with technical questions or technical statements about the Generation Z you are refering to.
General conversation and non technical threads will not be allowed in this section and will be moved to the new Z Related (Non Technical) section, or Non Z related.

Topics within Z related (Technical) will be monitored, and posts that do not contribute to the topic will be removed.

- The Z Related (Non Technical) section is for all other discussion about the Z's that is not technical in nature, eg styling, colour, etc. Note it still must relate directly to one of the Z family. No general off topic discussion is allowed in this section.

NO RELIGOUS POLITICAL OR SEXUAL disscussions allowed. Quite frankly there are many other places if you want to discuss such issues and the purpose of this particular forum is not for that. The NWS forum is provided for this community to have light hearted off topic chat / discussion.

You are not allowed to provide links to web pages that contain pornography or other similarly or distasteful topics. Remember that above all, this is a community, and we have a high standard to uphold compared to other car forums on the Internet.

If you must indulge yourselves in areas that some people will find offensive, save that for email, IM or PM. NWS NWS NWS AREA!!

- Images should be resized to no bigger than 800x600 where possible and reasonable amounts of jpeg compression, or dial up modem users have a hard time. Signatures should be no bigger than 60kb

With 8 or 9 forum moderators a post disregarding any of these guidelines will probably be deleted pretty quickly and will not do you any favours in terms of other member's opinions of you. Frequent disregard of these guidelines will incur infractions and possibly lead to you being banned from the site.... this is a great forum with great people and we intend to keep it this way.

Members that have been banned may not create additional accounts to circumvent the ban it will only extend the original ban time.

Signatures

Members may create personal Signatures for their profile assuming the following conditions.
? Sig must not contravene any of the regular guidelines for posting.
? Images must be no larger than 750 pixels wide and 200 pixels high (to give you an idea the banner logo is 410 x 108. If you wish to use multiple images, the combined foot print must be within 750 x 200
? No advertising, via LINKS or otherwise, within the sig. One (1) LINK to a Member's Garage or personal website is acceptable.
? The sum total of media in your sig must be less than 250 kilobytes
? Sig's in contravention of guidelines may be DELETED or EDITED by Moderator(s).

Advertising

The operators of this site run it as a non-profit venture, which tries to be completely unbiased in regards to products or businesses. The personal views of its members of course express their opinions on these matters. We wish there to be a minimum of advertising, however it is of course also logical to allow businesses to inform members of new products which are of Z relevance, and to provide information about product when specifically requested.

- No regular mentioning of product or specials in signatures or posts. Signatures can include only a single text link, no bio, mention of latest product or specials, etc.

- Informing members of a new product or Z related special is acceptable once on the forum only.

- Product or businesses should only be mentioned in response to specific questions (e.g. "Who sells product xxx?").

- Mentioning of your business in profiles is ok, but keep it low key (e.g. a single image and short bio).

- Frequent posts which are not a direct advertisement but which are constant indirect promotion of a business or product may be removed at the administrator's discretion.

These guidelines on advertising relate only to instances where profit is involved. Non profit examples such as group buys organized by a member who will not explicitly gain from it, but is merely getting themselves and others a better price can be more proactive as it is of direct benefit to members. Basically, if it is of use, interest or benefit to members with no other motives, it is not bound by these guidelines.


Buying from other members - buyer beware

Buying goods from other forum members can involve risk, it is suggested anyone concerned about being ripped off should consider the following safeguards, and these are not a bad idea for anyone planning to purchase from sellers on the forum

- Ensure you have adequate contact details from the seller, preferably a full name, email address (non generic addresses such as a Yahoo account are better but sometimes not avoidable) and a phone number. An address is good but some people may be uncomfortable giving out this information, it is your choice on how to interpret this. Although not foolproof the aim is to know who the seller is and be able to contact them or contest the issue should problems arise. Any seller who wishes to remain completely anonymous aside from their email address should be dealt with very cautiously.

- Search for posts made by the seller to learn of their involvement on the forum, if they are well known, and so on. Likewise search for posts including the sellers name to see if there have been complaints in the past. If the seller has few or no posts ask them if they have a reputation on other forums or can illustrate why they can be trusted.

- Cash On Delivery (COD) is a method of ensuring at least something is sent, however this does not guarantee the goods you receive will be what you purchased or in the condition indicated.

- Consider using PayPal as it does offer some limited protection against fraud.

- If buying from a seller in your state if possible pick up goods directly, if in another state see if you can get a friend to pick up goods on your behalf.

- If you are genuinely concerned ask if the seller is willing to go via a third party escrow service

- Visit http://www.forumscams.com/ for scammers acting across several forums

- Inform the moderators if you have been ripped off. While we are not a judge and jury nor enforcers, if trends with one particular seller arises we may take action.


Classifieds guidelines -
Remove expired ad's: Members should request LOCKING or DELETION of classifieds posts once an item is sold or no longer for sale. PM any Moderator for assistance.

- No auctions. Advertisements must have a price rather than requesting an offer and playing members off against each other. If you wish to auction an item create an ad' on eBay or similar and link to it in your classifieds listing

- Please include all of the relevant details such as price, your location, willingness to ship interstate or other pertinent information

- No unnecessary multiple listings. If you have 5 items to sell, put them all in the same advertisement, not 5 separate ones.

- Post with no activity older then 2 months may be deleted at moderators' discretion

- Z related items only. Non Z Related items may be deleted at moderators' discretion.


Group Buys

To reduce the potential risk to buyers in a group buy, you must post contact information.

In addition, please be aware of the following:-
? Your thread will not be visible to other forum members until we read, and validate the thread.
? At that time, we will take out your personal information, and keep it on file (so only the body of the group buy will appear, and the general public won't see your phone numbers or home address).
? We reserve the right to check the validity of your address and phone numbers before the thread will be allowed.
? If you refuse to supply a name and phone number, then the thread will be deleted
? Members supplying FAKE information or attempting to subvert this process will have Group Buy privileges permanently revoked.
? Group buys are strictly non-profit, therefore, if you are not comfortable with supplying your home address and phone number, pass the GB to someone else, and ask them to give you a mention as the person who thought of it, after all, if there is no profit, then you haven't lost anything.
? MOST IMPORTANTLY, JUST BECAUSE A GROUP BUY IS VALIDATED, DOES NOT GIVE AN IRON CLAD GUARANTEE THAT A SELLER IS GENUINE. IT SIMPLY MEANS AS A MODERATING TEAM, WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY IN REGARDS TO TRYING TO VERIFY THE SELLERS IN THIS SECTION. NO METHOD WILL EVER COMPLETELY STOP SCAMMERS, SO THIS SECTION WILL ALWAYS REMAIN BUYER BEWARE.

MODERATORS WILL NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF GROUP BUYS GO BAD.
? Should we feel that a scam is underway, the Police will be contacted

Posts which may be deleted by moderators

- Anything in violation of the guidelines mentioned above.

- Any post encouraging illegal/dangerous activity. These will either be deleted or if not left to be voted to deletion by the members (it WILL happen).

- Posts which are in the wrong forum (e.g. a for sale ad' in the main Z forum). These will typically be moved to the appropriate section.

- Duplicate posts across forums (e.g. a post in the main Z forum telling people to look at a post in the Events forum). Duplicate post between the Events section and the Events Discussion forum are acceptable.

- Topics which have already been discussed recently (in the last week or so). A deletion email will include a link to the previous thread.

- Posts which are personal communication that simply push other more relevant posts off the main page (e.g. "Mr. Abc, you have mail"). This only applies to root threads, replies to other posts are acceptable as they don't push other information off the main page, although.

- Entries in the Classifieds section more than 2 months old.

- Posts which correct spelling or similar containing no useful content.

- Post that have no purpose other then to drive up the poster's post count.

- Posts that are a direct reference to a 3rd Party Ebay (or similar) Ad

- Non english posts. The owners of this board have a potential legal liability for the content of posts, and are not prepared to accept any post in languages we may not fully understand.

Moderators maintain the right to delete posts or leave them untouched at their discretion.

This may not cover everything so please keep it within the spirit of these guidelines, and if there is a grey area please email Z_trbl_mkr or Blacktwin for more info or complaint.

There is a lot of behavior which does not violate the guidelines but which can still be detrimental to the forum. Experience has shown that arguments on the forum and friction between members turns a lot of other people off and hurts the site and its atmosphere a lot. Furthermore, it rarely if ever achieves anything other than to frustrate a lot of people, and worse still can typically be avoided if people just put some fore thought and care into what they post, or show a bit of humility and not post something that's going to cause trouble, even though they could or may impulsively want to.